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thegrandwazoo
624549.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:27 am Reply with quote

Does anybody have any idea where the term "fence" comes from in relation to a handler of stolen goods? Did the noun come first or the verb?
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masterfroggy
624566.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:29 am Reply with quote

thegrandwazoo wrote:
Does anybody have any idea where the term "fence" comes from in relation to a handler of stolen goods? Did the noun come first or the verb?



In the "Sense of "dealer in stolen goods" is thieves' slang, first attested c.1700, from notion of such transactions taking place under defense of secrecy.
www.etymonline.com

 
exnihilo
624607.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:24 am Reply with quote

I'd have thought it was simpler even than that, the older sense of "fence" as any kind of barrier or defensive screen (as opposed to our modern sense of a specifically wooden thing) gives the thieves' fence an obvious analogy - the barrier or screen between the thief and other people. I suppose that's essentially the same thing, but in a marginally more direct way.

 
gruff5
624616.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:37 am Reply with quote

Is all land ownership a "stolen good"?

 
Neotenic
624626.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:14 pm Reply with quote

I think you should put down that copy of Socialist Worker right now.

 
gruff5
624641.  Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:40 pm Reply with quote

I suspect that SW would say that the highland clearances, the earlier enclosures in England, were theft of the common land from the people. And that anyone buying that land from the nobility thieves were handling stolen property. But would they be wrong to say that?

 
thegrandwazoo
625176.  Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:39 pm Reply with quote

Gosh, and there was I thinking I was asking and etymological question. Thanks mf for your link. I will leave the Marxists to tie themselves in knots over the morality of property ownership.
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Rudolph Hucker
625211.  Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:01 pm Reply with quote

The use of the word fence in the sense of a person handling stolen goods is dying out.

They are called Cash Converters now.
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